The Americans call them âafloat forward-staging bases.â Theyâre a key component of expeditionary sea bases, collections of ships, landing craft and causeways that allow a naval flotilla to land and support a ground force. In the long term redirecting the wrong funds could cost more than it saves. It is worrying what might be axed though. And the likes of ocean could only take 18 max. https://features.propublica.org/navy-accidents/us-navy-crashes-japan-cause-mccain/ Historical precedent, the Royal navy was in the same… Read more », No it makes no sense what with the gaping hole in the defence budget as it is. It’s an interesting idea but presents a few questions. Very interested to see how this develops. I think it’s all grand standing for a general election in the very near future. When legislators recently decided to make the U.S. Navy test its next warship's propulsion system on land, they had the problematic history of the Littoral Combat Ship … The Navy plans on decommissioning its first four littoral combat ships in fiscal year 2021, the Navy announced on Monday, all of which have at least … But we sold a Bay not so long back. In addition, vessels of this type can be configured with containers to support almost any mission. Agree. I would want that on these, if the RN is to aid the Baltic NATO states in Winter. And in the real world the select committee reports that the MoD has still not sorted the huge gap between its budget on the one hand and its future equipment plan on the other. I think this is coming from a speech the Def Sec is giving at RUSI, he also has mentioned squadrons of drones being used to overwhelm air defences and the deployment of QE in2021 (as per another article on this site), Wait, new ships? The commando helicopter force has a couple dozen helicopters that are getting upgraded and will all be done by 2021. Nothing else at all concrete. It’s all smoke and mirrors ahead of a GE. You can flag a comment by clicking its flag icon. The littoral strike ships could partially reverse years of cuts to the U.K. amphibious fleet. Because that is their role…to loiter off coasts saving the carrier from doing it. We need THREE fast modern dock ships similar to the USN San Antonio class. We have close combat company, a small TAC HQ, and a clutch of Junglies in the carrier. Job done. The Littoral Combat Ship has been beset by troubles, including cracks and corrosion and its price has doubled since 2005 to $440 million per vessel Big floor area under the flight deck though for all sorts of goodies. Due to its modular design, the LCS will be able to r… Floating SF bases basically. David Axe serves as Defense Editor of the National Interest. Sorry about this but Fish and Chips…landing from the sea ! It will be noted that the terms used in this release vary from Combat Ship to Assault Ship. About 3/4 of CHF’s Merlin aren’t currently being upgraded or in depth maintenance. and see if they are worth the prefix of h.m.s. The U.S. Navy in 2011 ordered the first of a planned five Montford Point-class afloat forward-staging bases. I think ‘the plan’ is still work in progress, but these ships look like thought through improvements on eithef sending exoensive QE class inshore or building a straight Ocean replacement. Those areas where all cypher locked compartments and spaces. (nothing would surprise me). Website admin will know that you reported it. THE r.n LOST ONE OF ITS PRESTIGIOUS SHIPS AND BADLY AFFECTED ITS CAPABILITY IN THE AMPHIBIOUS ARENA SOFT POWER? You might be on to something there. © 2014-2019 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. I too think these will be conversions rather than new builds. Wouldn’t be surprised if these are built by the Us seeing as they have to knowledge and recent history. Wonder where they will get the crew? the numbers are a disgrace, millions to nations who harbour and allow terrorists to operate on their soil,(pakistan) the same amount to a nation with the regions biggest economy,(india) another shedload of money to a nation run by inept despots who waste it while those who DO need help go without(nigeria). The vessel is a modified Alaska class oil tanker design. As ‘Littoral Strike’ ships they will be… Read more ». Freedom-Class Littoral Combat Ships May Have Serious Gearbox Defect. It’s not often that we get the announcement of 2 pretty sizeable new vessels out of the blue. appledore did build Hms Scott but could it fit anything bigger in the dock hall? The littoral combat ship USS Minneapolis-St. Paul, here at its June 14, 2020, launch, completed its acceptance trials, the U.S. Navy said on Monday. speaking of lasting longer how long did pakistan get out of the 6 type 21’s they had, maybe the first retiring t23 in exchange for their return, refit, upgrading with all new systems could fill the gap waiting for the clyde to actually deliver something! If purpose built, lets hope they will be classed as warships and built in the UK. Didn’t the DS get quoted months back concerning converting ferries. It’s not exactly a free flowing, easy to keep up with format, that’s for sure. Media in category "Littoral Combat Ships" The following 5 files are in this category, out of 5 total. Lol I know what your referring to. Either way an innovative addition to our amphibious forces. The idea the Uk purchase anything other than unarmed coastal patrol cutters will infuriate him ???. They’ve said they are scouting for two cargo or passenger liners that are suitable for conversion. I’d imagine boats would include RIB, RRC, ORC, and the HSIC used by the SBS and seen racing round Poole harbour on a regular basis. Steven, Where Is That ? Maybe, I don’t recall. Rather than sheer numbers, which indeed remains important, and which have as we know reduced far to much. A “littoral” ship is one that is intended mainly to operate close to the shore rather than in the open sea. I’d hope so Captain, at the very least some guns and the usual Defensive aids. But that doesnât mean they canât, or wonât, fight. UKSF at the tip of that, and always in demand from the US and used by HMG. This is a conversion of a sister class to the Points. in the gib squadron. Apart from using our carriers obviously. Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, Royal Navy warship arrives in the Shetlands, Russian nuclear submarine fires four ballistic missiles, U.S. Navy in first Block V Tomahawk operational test launch, BAE awarded full-rate production of Amphibious Combat Vehicle, Common myths about shipbuilding in Scotland, Airpower by novel means – Drones over Nagorno-Karabakh, Joint British-Qatari Typhoon Squadron fly over 60 missions. Secrecy would be paramount. If they took back the 2 Points they let go so it didn’t affect existing numbers it would be reasonable, commonality of a lot of onboard systems, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if this ends up not being 2 new vessels but actually being converting 2 of the currently in-service Points to this new role. Or Dutch Derutyer. If they are to carry Special Forces they will have to have defensive armament and countermeasures, plus some casualty treatment facilities. Maybe the DSF budget, which is considerable, and which is separate from other areas, pays for them? Doubt it. Or converted waves, if they are surplus? Once Hms ocean left we lost the mass commando helicopter lift. We sold Ocean to Brazil for a fair market price as a hot swap as it had been in service for twenty years and the QE class is coming on line. They had been operating Little Birds, Pave Hawks and drones from it . Let the speculation begin! despite recent comments saying they are safe. Trials included a full-power run, maneuverability testing, and surface and air detect-to-engage demonstrations of the ship's combat system. Littoral strike ships are vessels which can command an assault force from anywhere in the world – carrying everything from helicopters and fast boats to underwater automated vehicles and huge numbers of troops. They do look a lot like Korean Tankers. Looking at the artist’s impression from the RN above they look like a modified Tide design. Thank you for helping build the largest language community on the internet. It was Civvy manned . One would be based East of Suez in the Indo-Pacific and one based West of Suez in the Mediterranean, Atlantic and Baltic. Find great deals on eBay for littoral combat ship. And, if we ever need them to, our two Littoral Strike Ships, our two aircraft carriers, our two amphibious assault ships Albion and Bulwark, and our three Bay Class landing ships can come together in one amphibious task force. But They are Littoral Ships, I’m guessing they will have some sort of Defensive Systems especially carrying such important “cargo” just off shore. I think they are alluding to something like U.S. Special Operations Command’s MV C Ocean Trader. They are exerting British influence through greater forward presence. One would be based East of Suez in the Indo-Pacific and one based West of Suez in the Mediterranean, Atlantic and Baltic. As floating bases forward deployed and I guess not in use for much of the time, and resident at Diego Garcia, Gib, or wherever, what permanent crew would they need? The Point class look good but are now aging, some well worn, and in need of replacement for strategic / heavy lift. We need something like the San Antonio, a class of three. Progress on the LSS is still at an early stage with only £5m set aside so far for work on the vessels. (but i’m just a cynic).. i don’t think the t 31e will happen either!! The UK is set to acquire two Littoral Strike Ships with the ability to launch troops and their equipment via helicopters and boats. Makes more sense to create these purpose designed ships than try to modify QE class to replace Ocean. Failing Grayling….specialist in failure lol. Saying that I am concerned about non-state actors using AShM…….. The UK is set to acquire two Littoral Strike Ships with the ability to launch troops and their equipment via helicopters and boats. Gabriel’s Blog at UK Armed Forces Commentary is brilliant, and I find myself constantly agreeing with his thinking. We should build the Type 45 replacement on the Type 26 hull and speed up the glacial build rate. The US Navy say that Puller has the third-largest flight deck in the naval services after aircraft carriers and amphibious assault ships and can also launch small boats or unmanned surface vehicles from its mission deck. get lost by half the posts on here lately. Running an already… Read more », I THOUGHT WE’D DONE THE HOSPITAL SHIP DEBATE ALREADY, It’s a discussion and discussion never ends, and stop shouting I’ve got a headache. That hasgot £15 billion a year which we seem to squander. Currently popular pronunciations. Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) 21, the future USS Minneapolis-Saint Paul, completed acceptance trials in Lake Michigan. Call them Warships, Build them Here In the UK, preferably in England before we actually lose all Capability. when i google and see how much money and where it goes to i get angrier and angrier! Not complaining though. Good 30000 Tons and a large internal volume should yield a ship able to support a couple of hundred troops and 6-10 helicopters each. The Billings is the eighth of … DI. I want to capitalise on that. An increase in ship numbers, a new class of ship???!! Overlord Class: HMS Sword, HMS Gold, with the option of a third, HMS Juno. Know what you mean Andy but if you get rid of acronyms the comments are going to get a lot, lot longer ! Let’s hope that means an increase in surface escorts – T26 & T45. In terms of amphibious operations, it is the range in land the marines can be directly supported from the sea rather than from a forward base onshore. U.S. Special Operations Command’s Elusive Mothership Is Packing Stealth Speedboat, Photos Surface Of Elusive U.S. Special Operations Mothership In Seychelles, http://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/foundry/image/?q=70&w=1440&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftimedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2F2018%2F06%2Fkkakd13x.jpg%3Fquality%3D85. And re reading my post, maybe the Bays WILL be released from their roles, by these assets. Then we can have a “National Shipbuilding Program”. Nowhere does it state New Builds or Conversions specifically, nor are there any Facts or Figures. DFID has £15 billion that is squandered every year. The two-variant class for years has come under fire for being lightly-built and under-armed for major warfare. What will TH say to that? The Points have impressive endurance. The fifth, planned vessel likely will feature the same extended flight deck. I think this is what they alluding too………. Not what we need. Assuming they follow the principles set out in the Nation Ship Building Strategy and we’ll see a competitive UK based tender to meet a fixed price with a minimum spec like the T31. This will be one of the largest and best such forces anywhere in the world.”, Here’s how the Littoral Strike Ships could look, image via the Royal Navy. You beat me to it. The ships boast some of the largest flight decks in the world. NO POWER MORE LIKE. Steve, exactly the point I was about to make. Royal Navy image. I’m optimistic at these. The US is having major problems with ships not being maintained and not enough training. That would be better than simply cutting her with no replacement and would increase the need for a dedicated hospital ship. Sign in to disable ALL ads. The third and fourth Montford Points feature even longer flight decks plus other enhancements. or her proposed sister ship built? CAN WE HAVE LESS ACRONYMS ON HERE? How the new Littoral Strike Ships could look (Image: Royal Navy) "Take the Royal Navy. I think it is a great idea. These enable SF to operate off terrorist shores, example Somalia, enabling our Bays, QEC and others to do other jobs. Totally agree but only if they could somehow be manned outside the present pool of staff as stripping the pool of health professionals that are available to staff the role3 MTFs is an issue. Would one of these ships basically be a ‘replacement’ for Argus? Too often MOD cut the enablers as well as the fighty end. The sea-base ships suffer limitations, of course. Dec 3, 2015 - July 2, 2009 The littoral combat ship underway during builder's trials. London in 2011 sold one of its four Bay -class landing ships. Hope they are purpose built as the US ships look ugly. Royal Navy The United Kingdom is developing a Future Littoral Strike Ship concept for the Royal Navy, which looks almost identical to the U.S. Navy’s … These are USS SiouxCity and USS Wichita. we cant even man our current ships let alone 2 new ones. looking at the picture i can easily imagine that layout could easily be turned into a floating fortress, plenty of room for torpedo searam 76mm gun e.t.c i like the way the russians use every space they can find to put a weapon, we leave capital assets criminally under armed, the albions for instance are very big ships, but have little or no defense to them i’d be interested knowing main specs size,speed,crew size e.t.c. Not separate like thecibtelligence services, which are part of the Home Office and FCO. Sounds like good news. He is theÂ author of the graphic novelsÂ Â War Fix,Â War Is BoringÂ andÂ Machete Squad. Keep the cost down focused on delivering the build. (Not saying I don’t enjoy It here but, It Is a tad confusing at times). Have a fact about Littoral-combat ship ? It is on the whole a smaller and arguably more handsome solution than the tanker based Expeditionary Transfer Dock. They seem a good answer to a different question. Deploying the carrier beomes the main ‘overseas’ activity (in peace) for the RN and the RAF. The U.S. Navy littoral combat ship Sioux City arrives at its home port in Mayport, Fla. What’s the betting an older single hull oiler RFA gets a quick conversion x 2. Yes the American ones are ex tankers. pointless what beaches are we expecting to storm/ the M.O.D hasn’t a clue the type 31 looks less likely to happen whenever a P.R stunt like this is made. Petition signed. New… Read more », Lusy the proposed hospital ship can’t be a replacement for Agus, the rules around hospitals ships would prevent that (they include a legal obligation to allow search by opposing powers etc), the legalities mean a hospital ship does not fit allied joint doctrine for medical support (with UK national elements), although there is nothing to prevent a change in doctrine a Hospital ship (as legally defined) does not fit with UK requirements for an afloat role2E MTF or role3 MTF. In my opinion this is a done deal and will happen. Gav’ you’re meant to be cutting the RN down to only one ship because that’s clearly all we need according to HMG. But the British, like the Americans before them, concluded that these ships are better than nothing. Fleet. The littoral strike ships could support the UK’s future commando force. And B.A.E.S. we should have learned not to put all the eggs in one basket. LCS 7 recently deployed, and it is gratifying to know that our team has delivered a ship that is relevant for today’s fight and that is needed around the world,” said Joe DePietro , Lockheed Martin vice president and general manager, Small Combatants and Ship Systems. Online vessel trackers showed Chouest arriving in Port Canaveral around 2:15 p.m. Detroit is a mono-hulled Freedom variant of the littoral combat ship, designed by Lockheed Martin and built at Marinette Marine in Wisconsin. The missile-shot signals an important, if greatly delayed, expansion of the LCS’s weapons capability. So maybe think of them as replacing the Bay we should not have sold and Ocean? Where is it stated that SF budget is seperate? Wow! Also confused how they are different from a normal amphibious ship like we have already? https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/235377. The ship was scheduled to arrive this afternoon, Hockycko said. A bad choice or better than the alternative? Priceless! Am I too wishful to think we might get some extra soon? http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21049/photos-surface-of-elusive-u-s-special-operations-mothership-in-seychelles. If you spend too much on ships eventually they become a drain. Williamson gets 10/10 for positive spin. We couldn’t run Largs Bay and presently struggle with manning the remainder of the RFA. 78,000 long tons (87,000 short tons) fully loaded, Obviously we are not getting anything that big, same size as QE and POW!! Why would a 3 billion Fleet carrier be needed to launch a couple of Chinooks inland on a mission? Not necessarily. Wonder if they could be built at Appledore, maybe it’s too small a yard. Share Article. 2) crew? This will give us sovereign, lethal, amphibious force. My biggest concern though, is funding. This has lead to numerous collisions in the pacific. Google them. Vessels like this are often called Expeditionary Transfer Dock’s (at least, by the US) and are typically a large auxiliary support ship to facilitate the ‘seabasing’ of an amphibious landing force by acting as a floating base or transfer station that can be prepositioned off the target area. Key point:Â London believes that two of these cheaper ships will be useful but it is unclear how much they will be. May 23, 2019 US Navy Eyes More Combat Upgrades for Littoral Combat Ships By Steven Stashwick. if we can suddenly afford these, why was ocean not replaced like for like? Until that issue is resolved, this is just political puff….. You’re forgetting the £3 billion Pension fund hole in the Army mate. The U.S. Navy has received delivery of two Freedom-class Littoral Combat Ships (LCS). Our vision is for these ships to form part of 2 Littoral Strike Groups complete with escorts, support vessels and helicopters. So stop sniffing. The concept behind the littoral combat ship, as described by former Secretary of the Navy Gordon R. England, is to "create a small, fast, maneuverable and relatively inexpensive member of the DD(X) family of ships." I was working on the Puller not long ago. Was it because she was worn out and only fit for a second tier navy? In all fairness, I think you will find that the Company was 60% owned by one of the Biggest Shipping Companies somewhere, can’t remember the details but It’s out there somewhere. i still think the removal of a bay superstructure and fitting a full length deck to make a h.l.p would be a better idea, especially as they’re already built. Our world-renowned Royal Marines – they’ll be forward deployed, at exceptionally high readiness, and able to respond at a moment’s notice bringing the fight from sea to land. That’s not a bad idea, good use of resources delivering a worthwhile capability (auxillary carrier) for not much money. I’d also be OK with foreign design, I don’t think its a design area the UK needs to have expertise, better to focus design funds in other areas. I don’t seem to remember them being part of the 168 billion. I envisage these to be much more basic. Sorry, what??!! Its speed, strength and versatility make … This will give us sovereign, lethal, amphibious force. The US has these types of vessels already. IF THEY ARE AS I FEEL ALONG THE SAME LINES AS THE HARPERS FERRY CLASS OF THE U.SN,then the crewing issue shouldn’t be too high they carry crews of under 100. But why sell ocean then? Naval Technology understands that the UK Royal Navy is no closer to ‘opening the door’ to developing Littoral Strike Ships despite reports suggesting two were in development. Would only take £500 million from that budget to build these 2 forward base vessels. Can’t find anything on any Official site about this. The thing these days is small, well trained professional forces, being able to power project as required, with the logistics, bases, and intelligence capabilities to back them up. “The Littoral Combat Ship program has been unnecessarily complicated from the beginning,” the Project on Government Oversight explained in 2016. So instead of leasing them it looks like an outright buy and convert job. So it would seem that the 1 billion pounds granted to the MOD earlier will go on this. singapore/ back to sembawang, best run ashore ever bugis street? DSF has it’s own “voice” and funding stream within MoD. Don’t take too long. Yes in a way. The DS makes the Amphibs force sound great talking of all 3 Bay and the 2 LPDs joining together. Mind you still needs a lot more bodies to man. Gavin Williamson, the U.K. defense secretary at the time, in February 2019 announced the planned purchase of two littoral strike ships. I can’t find It in the Headline Post ? To me this is welcome news. Forward based assault troops and Chinooks to be the norm? so are these going to be replacing the gap left by HMS Ocean,quite a shock that we are getting 2 I just hope this does not affect the number of frigates,we all know they like to penny pinch so where has the money come from or what is being planned to scrap something else to pay for them?? And yes, build them here. Our vision is for these ships to form part of two littoral strike groups complete with escorts, support vessels and helicopters. Wont happen, Wow didn’t see this coming. I’m disproportionately excited by this! we had one and just sold it for peanuts to Brazil ex HMS OCEAN!! That still leaves 2 billion pounds to be found from elsewhere. Williamson praised the littoral strike ships for their ability to exert âBritish influence through greater forward presence.â. We needed the crew for the Q.E’s. The ship is easy to reconfigure for different roles, including anti-submarine warfare, mine countermeasures, anti-surface warfare, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, homeland defense, maritime intercept, special operations, and logistics. Maybe this was in mind with that announcement of the new Chinooks. Sailors stand a simulated watch on the bridge of the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) … So makes logical sense. Littoral combat ships are fast, agile surface combatants optimized for operating in the highly trafficked near-shore regions of the world. Announcing the potential acquisition of the ships, UK defense secretary Gavin Williamson said the ships would form part of two littoral strike groups complete with escorts, support vessels and helicopters. For me what is most useful about the idea is it would go some way to replacing RFA Diligence as there would certainly be space for workshops. Our world-renowned Royal Marines â theyâll be forward deployed, at exceptionally high readiness and able to respond at a momentâs notice bringing the fight from sea to land. It all sounds a bit at odds with the black Hole in defence funding. If this is going to come to be then expect a conversion, there are more than one UK yard that would appreciate the conversion work. Where is the money coming from and also the crew?? The picture released by 1SL appears to be closely based upon the US MV Ocean which is a conversion from a fast RoRo. We need something that can carry 4 to 6 LCAC or French catamaran LC’s…….. My guess for some of the things discussed here is as follows: 1) new build or conversion? And the balance in the dock ship with support elements and other stores in a bay stooging behind. Something like 9000 miles at 21kts………. A modern day Atlantic conveyor. Cover the vehicle deck to make a flightdeck and still retain all the storage inside. The ‘Special Forces’ spin is always a good way of securing some extra funding, but I do wonder if these ships would come at a cost. Great news, assume they will not be as large as the US vessels but great news all he same. I am delighted with the news, however not going to hold breath until I see what exactly we are going to get. Trials included a full-power … Figure 2- Major Design Changes among Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) Seaframes (9454104572).jpg 418 × 574; 47 KB. CHF currently has 6 Wildcat AH1 and is currently converting its 25 Merlin to the HC4 standard. I agree, ignore the floating base stuff, the first picture makes it look like a Point class conversion. They are exerting British influence through greater forward presence. Mayport's latest littoral combat ship completes sea trials . Raise the deck higher and it becomes a big flat space to park vehicles and spread out equipment and containers. Save on budget and provides required platform. 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